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This is a discussion on Do you believe in God's existance? within the Theology, Philosophy & Debate forums, part of the On Topics category; Originally Posted by KillerDreaming Please don't call people pathetic, KaBooZ. Regardless of how true it is, it's mean. For someone ...

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Please don't call people pathetic, KaBooZ. Regardless of how true it is, it's mean.
For someone refering to devote christians as christfags...

Whilst I may not agree with Arend's wording, it is still a pretty astute point.
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Yes, I do. What ever we do everyday is defined by them. And we should also believe on them since they do all the great things for us which are so good. like our careers and everything is whatever they make us do.
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well then who created darwain, or rather who created the first cell on earth, things just don happend them selves here, why is that in an accident one person dies and the other lives, it God who takes the life of one person and gives the life to another
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well then who created darwain, or rather who created the first cell on earth, things just don happend them selves here
Darwin's parents created Darwin by going through a process I'd rather not go into, as that process most likely took less time to perform than what I am currently typing. As for the actual beginning of life itself, I am unable personally to explain because I am not a biologist. However, I am aware of the anthropic principle, and this is a nice little tool to have at hand.
If you consider that on average there are 4 planets per star (seems fair considering the solar system has 8-fuck you Pluto- and some will obviously have less or none), in an average galaxy therein lies at least 100 billion stars, and within the universe there are believed to be around 100 billion galaxies. As you can imagine, this is a rather staggering number (4*10^20 planets assuming the averages). Now, the probability of life occuring, that is the mutliplication of the different axioms required for life, is far less than this number (I do not know the figures, but I am confident with this claim nonetheless, as there are doctors of biology who work effortlessly with this sort of problem) and so it is safe to claim that life is more than a probable event. If you are tempted to think "But why does life exist HERE?" Just realise this fact- it is BECAUSE you are here. It is an equivalent question if we lived on Mars or Mercury or Europa or on Upsilon Andromedae C, much as it is to ask why we are living in a universe capable of sustaining life. It can sustain life, otherwise we would not be around to waste are our time asking why it can. I realise what I am saying is as big a cop out as claiming some spectral being has created us for her own sick pleasure, but I am not egotistical enough to believe we were put on this earth for a reason, more than we happen to be the result of evolution and fluke. This is not a nihilistic approach, because what is more soul destroying than the belief that we were here for the purpose of sending out God's message to other humans (who must also be put on this planet for the same reason) and failing (because trust me, you guys are)?

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why is that in an accident one person dies and the other lives, it God who takes the life of one person and gives the life to another
Actually, one person dies because a piece of bone fragment snaps and its jagged edge severs an artery, resulting in heavy blood loss. This heavy blood loss results in human tissue being deprived of oxygen, and so is unable to respire, and therefore energy, and so uses up its own mass to keep going, resulting in withering, decay and ultimately death. The other perons, by contrast, is cushioned either by an airbag, their own fat or, quite possibly, the other carcass that sits beside them. This is not a theistic situation, there are simply many factors which increase the probability of one person surviving the crash whilst the other perishes.

There ends the regional atheist's rant. You guys really need to come up with some arguement for your cases, otherwise this is will be a rather bland discussion thread =)
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Darwin's parents created Darwin by going through a process I'd rather not go into, as that process most likely took less time to perform than what I am currently typing. As for the actual beginning of life itself, I am unable personally to explain because I am not a biologist. However, I am aware of the anthropic principle, and this is a nice little tool to have at hand.
If you consider that on average there are 4 planets per star (seems fair considering the solar system has 8-fuck you Pluto- and some will obviously have less or none), in an average galaxy therein lies at least 100 billion stars, and within the universe there are believed to be around 100 billion galaxies. As you can imagine, this is a rather staggering number (4*10^22 planets assuming the averages). Now, the probability of life occuring, that is the mutliplication of the different axioms required for life, is far less than this number (I do not know the figures, but I am confident with this claim nonetheless, as there are doctors of biology who work effortlessly with this sort of problem) and so it is safe to claim that life is more than a probable event. If you are tempted to think "But why does life exist HERE?" Just realise this fact- it is BECAUSE you are here. It is an equivalent question if we lived on Mars or Mercury or Europa or on Upsilon Andromedae C, much as it is to ask why we are living in a universe capable of sustaining life. It can sustain life, otherwise we would not be around to waste are our time asking why it can. I realise what I am saying is as big a cop out as claiming some spectral being has created us for her own sick pleasure, but I am not egotistical enough to believe we were put on this earth for a reason, more than we happen to be the result of evolution and fluke. This is not a nihilistic approach, because what is more soul destroying than the belief that we were here for the purpose of sending out God's message to other humans (who must also be put on this planet for the same reason) and failing (because trust me, you guys are)?



Actually, one person dies because a piece of bone fragment snaps and its jagged edge severs an artery, resulting in heavy blood loss. This heavy blood loss results in human tissue being deprived of oxygen, and so is unable to respire, and therefore energy, and so uses up its own mass to keep going, resulting in withering, decay and ultimately death. The other perons, by contrast, is cushioned either by an airbag, their own fat or, quite possibly, the other carcass that sits beside them. This is not a theistic situation, there are simply many factors which increase the probability of one person surviving the crash whilst the other perishes.

There ends the regional atheist's rant. You guys really need to come up with some arguement for your cases, otherwise this is will be a rather bland discussion thread =)
Kossick, stop doing doo-doo on those kids. Or throw in some snide humour.
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I said Fuck you to Pluto.....
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That wasnt the best choice of videos... That almost turned me into an atheist lol I mean really, that made atheism sound good LMAO
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That wasnt the best choice of videos... That almost turned me into an atheist lol I mean really, that made atheism sound good LMAO
Ah, an encouraging start
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Really never believed in his existence or Jesus as well. There was times in my life I get scared of them or etc along those lines and really don't remember why I got scared of them. For the past few yrs have really been examin these issues and have say I'm leanin more and more to agnosticism.

Think thats it for now.
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Yes, I do believe in God. I don't like Darwin because really he was just full of crap. Evolution never occured. We were givne life by our creator, and that is God. if you need any proof go read the Bible there's tons in it. of course we can't realy know until we die but when I die at least I know where I am going :)

The bible is a great book but what do you have to prove it everyday life. If reading the bible was the answer to life then no one would have to go to church or question anything. However if you look at Darwin's theory, It doesn't explain how life happened only what happened to it after it came to be.
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